Comments on: Winter Meetings http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/ We cannot always build the future for our youth, but we can build our youth for the future - FDR Fri, 03 Sep 2010 23:03:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Bill Wagner http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395936 Bill Wagner Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:36:08 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395936 <p>This is a symptom of a sea change in philosophy. Rizzo as someone said wants PROVEN players who are mature. The Nats will focus on college talent under Rizzo and major league talent. Under Bowden it was always about the moonshot chance - the "tools" guys who otherwise either had problems or hadn't put it together. What has that gotten us? Disaster. Take a look at Oakland. Rizzo is doing it exactly like Beane does. Bowden left us with a bunch of very young talented guys who have yet to achieve their potential. Whether it be Smoker, or McGeary, or Marrero, or Smiley, or Destin Hood, or Gonzalez, or Burgess, or pick your poison. Glad to see a good philosophy now...</p> This is a symptom of a sea change in philosophy. Rizzo as someone said wants PROVEN players who are mature. The Nats will focus on college talent under Rizzo and major league talent. Under Bowden it was always about the moonshot chance – the “tools” guys who otherwise either had problems or hadn’t put it together. What has that gotten us? Disaster. Take a look at Oakland. Rizzo is doing it exactly like Beane does. Bowden left us with a bunch of very young talented guys who have yet to achieve their potential. Whether it be Smoker, or McGeary, or Marrero, or Smiley, or Destin Hood, or Gonzalez, or Burgess, or pick your poison. Glad to see a good philosophy now…

]]> By: Sue Dinem http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395867 Sue Dinem Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:33:19 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395867 <p>For those interested, BA will be "tweeting" the R5 this morning:</p> <p>www.twitter.com/baseballamerica</p> For those interested, BA will be “tweeting” the R5 this morning:

http://www.twitter.com/baseballamerica

]]> By: Paul http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395864 Paul Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:58:01 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395864 <blockquote cite="#commentbody-395863"> <strong><a href="#comment-395863" rel="nofollow">Offense/offensive</a> :</strong> <p>What about Aroldis Chapman ...?</p> </blockquote> <p>Thinking big. I like that.</p> Offense/offensive :

What about Aroldis Chapman …?

Thinking big. I like that.

]]> By: Offense/offensive http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395863 Offense/offensive Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:45:31 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395863 <p>What about Aroldis Chapman (the Cuban lefty)? It seems like the market for Chapman has come down quite a bit from the original $50-$60mil people thought he might get to more like $20-$30mil. Just think about a rotation including SS and Chapman...Extremely high potential there.</p> What about Aroldis Chapman (the Cuban lefty)? It seems like the market for Chapman has come down quite a bit from the original $50-$60mil people thought he might get to more like $20-$30mil. Just think about a rotation including SS and Chapman…Extremely high potential there.

]]> By: SpringfieldFan http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395862 SpringfieldFan Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:35:11 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395862 <p>Did y'all get the email holiday card from the Nats? I found it Interesting that they used a Maxwell walk-off as the video clip.</p> Did y’all get the email holiday card from the Nats? I found it Interesting that they used a Maxwell walk-off as the video clip.

]]> By: Berndaddy http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395860 Berndaddy Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:19:22 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395860 <p>Andrew one word --- inventory !!!</p> <p>Urgh....</p> Andrew one word — inventory !!!

Urgh….

]]> By: Andrew Stebbins http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395859 Andrew Stebbins Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:44:05 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395859 <blockquote cite="#commentbody-395858"> <strong><a href="#comment-395858" rel="nofollow">markfd</a> :</strong>Yes dd that Jerry Owens, he gives us a CF in AAA.</blockquote> <p>To go along with Maxwell or Bernadina.</p> markfd :Yes dd that Jerry Owens, he gives us a CF in AAA.

To go along with Maxwell or Bernadina.

]]> By: markfd http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395858 markfd Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:44:01 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395858 <p>Yes dd that Jerry Owens, he gives us a CF in AAA.</p> Yes dd that Jerry Owens, he gives us a CF in AAA.

]]> By: dd http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395857 dd Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:39:44 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395857 <p>Jerry Owens.. Is that the same player who was originally drafted by the Expos in the second round? If so, good minor league player with speed, no pop. The soon to be 29 year old is no more than a fifth outfielder. Wish him well!!</p> Jerry Owens.. Is that the same player who was originally drafted by the Expos in the second round? If so, good minor league player with speed, no pop. The soon to be 29 year old is no more than a fifth outfielder. Wish him well!!

]]> By: Brian H http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395856 Brian H Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:33:25 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395856 <p>Thank you, Andrew. Why does it seem we are only interested in lg avg or below production from the SPs on this roster - and for that matter, on the FA market. I feel like we're really missing out on an opportunity to acquire effective SPs (a la Sheets, Duchscherer, Harden) at a massive discount , along with the opportunity to possibly game the system into acquiring a draft pick or two when these guys become FAs after a 1-2 yr deal. Is the price difference between these two classes really that prohibitive?</p> Thank you, Andrew. Why does it seem we are only interested in lg avg or below production from the SPs on this roster – and for that matter, on the FA market. I feel like we’re really missing out on an opportunity to acquire effective SPs (a la Sheets, Duchscherer, Harden) at a massive discount , along with the opportunity to possibly game the system into acquiring a draft pick or two when these guys become FAs after a 1-2 yr deal. Is the price difference between these two classes really that prohibitive?

]]> By: Emmett Aldredge http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395855 Emmett Aldredge Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:17:22 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395855 <p>I think signing Pudge is a nice move. As a backup to Flores, he's certainly an upgrade over Bard and Nieves. If Flores isn't ready or able to stay healthy, he's still a better fallback than what we had. Did we overpay? Sure...too many years...sure. But $3M / year isn't, or shouldn't at least, be material to the team making other necessary moves. I'm actually excited the team would overpay to fix the problem - especially since its not the kind of money in the big picture that really ties the franchise's hands in any significant way. Plus the credibility of a guy of his stature can't hurt in luring other FA's.</p> <p>Time to turn to pitching and spend some real money.</p> I think signing Pudge is a nice move. As a backup to Flores, he’s certainly an upgrade over Bard and Nieves. If Flores isn’t ready or able to stay healthy, he’s still a better fallback than what we had. Did we overpay? Sure…too many years…sure. But $3M / year isn’t, or shouldn’t at least, be material to the team making other necessary moves. I’m actually excited the team would overpay to fix the problem – especially since its not the kind of money in the big picture that really ties the franchise’s hands in any significant way. Plus the credibility of a guy of his stature can’t hurt in luring other FA’s.

Time to turn to pitching and spend some real money.

]]> By: Andrew Stebbins http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395854 Andrew Stebbins Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:11:14 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395854 <p>"Garland or Padilla? Any preferences?"</p> <p>None of the above.</p> <p>Wolf, Smoltz, Harden, Duchscherer (whom I've been told they don't have interest in), Bedard, Piniero, Sheets, Washburn.</p> “Garland or Padilla? Any preferences?”

None of the above.

Wolf, Smoltz, Harden, Duchscherer (whom I’ve been told they don’t have interest in), Bedard, Piniero, Sheets, Washburn.

]]> By: joNAThan http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395853 joNAThan Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:13:29 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395853 <p>Terrell's cousin? No idea....probably a journeymen, but hey, Willie Harris was once a journeymen, now he's Willie Harris.</p> Terrell’s cousin? No idea….probably a journeymen, but hey, Willie Harris was once a journeymen, now he’s Willie Harris.

]]> By: Facekdr http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395852 Facekdr Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:04:35 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395852 <p>what do you know about Jerry Owens?</p> what do you know about Jerry Owens?

]]> By: joNAThan http://natsfarm.com/2009/12/08/winter-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-395851 joNAThan Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:03:25 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=4087#comment-395851 <p>Phil Wood's blog on MASN mentions a conversation with Jack McKeon that sings the praises of IRod. The key will be Jesus' health, but all in all there is no harm in having IRod around and if he really diminishes this year, the Nats have eaten more than $3 million before (Young, LoDuca, etc.) so no big deal.</p> <p>Garland or Padilla? Any preferences?</p> Phil Wood’s blog on MASN mentions a conversation with Jack McKeon that sings the praises of IRod. The key will be Jesus’ health, but all in all there is no harm in having IRod around and if he really diminishes this year, the Nats have eaten more than $3 million before (Young, LoDuca, etc.) so no big deal.

Garland or Padilla? Any preferences?

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