Comments on: NFA Mock Draft – June 4 http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/ We cannot always build the future for our youth, but we can build our youth for the future - FDR Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:29:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Josh http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390491 Josh Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:57:02 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390491 <p>I think Kyle Gibson would be a great pick here- he'll be cheaper now that he's injured so he could be a cheap deal who could end up being the 2nd best college pitcher in this draft.</p> I think Kyle Gibson would be a great pick here- he’ll be cheaper now that he’s injured so he could be a cheap deal who could end up being the 2nd best college pitcher in this draft.

]]> By: RD http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390427 RD Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:01:18 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390427 <p>If Grant Green is there at ten, you have to take him. There is a chance he remains at shortstop ... thats enough to nab him. If he doesn't and moves to third or a corner outfield spot, then so be it. If he fulfills his potential, he can be an SS or OFer for us, or trade bait as a third baseman.</p> <p>He was the major threat in the SC offense and teams could pitch around him. He shouldn't be sliding as far as it seems he has. I would be upset if we passed on him at 10.</p> <p>As for the talks of taking a signability pick, again, I would be upset with that. There are too many guys that seem to fit just fine in that slot and should take about slot money. Shelby Miller and Matt Purke top the list that appear to be signable players with big time upsides. Since we were willing to go up to $3.5 for Crow last year, I see no reason to have to sign this pick in the $2mill range. Im not saying we should be willing to throw $3.5 at anyone on the board, but it should be an option at this pick since they were ok last year offering that(and knowing we had a chance at Strasburg the next year as well). So if there were fine paying that money last year and forking it over for Strasburg, then we should pay it this year as well. I imagine both of those HSers would be signable for less than that $3.5.</p> <p>Id love to have one of Matzek, Miller, Purke, Turner, Z Wheeler, Leake, or Green. I understand a couple may have price tags almost double that $3.5 and that is fine if they are off the board(I would still take them if we felt they were that good, but I can understand after Strasburg's price to not pay $6mill for the ten spot). If White and Gibson check out well then Id throw them in that group. Id put all of those guys ahead of Stroren, Jenkins, and Minor. At least one of the aforemention guys will be on the board and I will be upset if we pass on one of them for a lower rated guy.</p> If Grant Green is there at ten, you have to take him. There is a chance he remains at shortstop … thats enough to nab him. If he doesn’t and moves to third or a corner outfield spot, then so be it. If he fulfills his potential, he can be an SS or OFer for us, or trade bait as a third baseman.

He was the major threat in the SC offense and teams could pitch around him. He shouldn’t be sliding as far as it seems he has. I would be upset if we passed on him at 10.

As for the talks of taking a signability pick, again, I would be upset with that. There are too many guys that seem to fit just fine in that slot and should take about slot money. Shelby Miller and Matt Purke top the list that appear to be signable players with big time upsides. Since we were willing to go up to $3.5 for Crow last year, I see no reason to have to sign this pick in the $2mill range. Im not saying we should be willing to throw $3.5 at anyone on the board, but it should be an option at this pick since they were ok last year offering that(and knowing we had a chance at Strasburg the next year as well). So if there were fine paying that money last year and forking it over for Strasburg, then we should pay it this year as well. I imagine both of those HSers would be signable for less than that $3.5.

Id love to have one of Matzek, Miller, Purke, Turner, Z Wheeler, Leake, or Green. I understand a couple may have price tags almost double that $3.5 and that is fine if they are off the board(I would still take them if we felt they were that good, but I can understand after Strasburg’s price to not pay $6mill for the ten spot). If White and Gibson check out well then Id throw them in that group. Id put all of those guys ahead of Stroren, Jenkins, and Minor. At least one of the aforemention guys will be on the board and I will be upset if we pass on one of them for a lower rated guy.

]]> By: Real Baseball Intelligence http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390426 Real Baseball Intelligence Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:41:43 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390426 <p>Real Baseball Intelligence (RBI), a leading resource in the evaluation of amateur baseball talent and draft coverage, offers its 2009 Baseball Draft Guide. The Guide includes RBI's Top 400 draft prospects, scouting reports of the top ten players at each position, a mock draft and more. It is available at withthefirstpick.net/guide</p> Real Baseball Intelligence (RBI), a leading resource in the evaluation of amateur baseball talent and draft coverage, offers its 2009 Baseball Draft Guide. The Guide includes RBI’s Top 400 draft prospects, scouting reports of the top ten players at each position, a mock draft and more. It is available at withthefirstpick.net/guide

]]> By: Dick http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390422 Dick Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:14:18 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390422 <p>Brian: The fact that Jenkins and Storen are in town is quite the scoop. Do you know if Trout has been here? They always seem to try out HS players before the draft.</p> Brian: The fact that Jenkins and Storen are in town is quite the scoop. Do you know if Trout has been here? They always seem to try out HS players before the draft.

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390421 Brian Oliver Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:56:50 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390421 <p>Marc - I believe quite a bit of his early hype was based upon his performance in last year's Cape Cod League. The perception I had was that people were looking for the next big college MI (Longoria, GBeckham, etc). His early performance with the bat was disappointing and he ended up sitting some early. The problem was compounded when the area scouts saw favorably (his glove) also showed issues with too many errors.</p> <p>The reports I've seen don't believe he can stay at SS defensively and there are questions to what kind of offense he can bring at corner IF. The conventional wisdom is that he will not hit for enough power to be a viable 3B or corner OF.</p> <p>He is an interesting guy and part of me would like the Nats to grab him if he's available at #10.</p> <p>I do not believe he and his advisor (Boras) are going to sign at a discount. In fact, there have been rumors he'll seek an above slot deal.</p> Marc – I believe quite a bit of his early hype was based upon his performance in last year’s Cape Cod League. The perception I had was that people were looking for the next big college MI (Longoria, GBeckham, etc). His early performance with the bat was disappointing and he ended up sitting some early. The problem was compounded when the area scouts saw favorably (his glove) also showed issues with too many errors.

The reports I’ve seen don’t believe he can stay at SS defensively and there are questions to what kind of offense he can bring at corner IF. The conventional wisdom is that he will not hit for enough power to be a viable 3B or corner OF.

He is an interesting guy and part of me would like the Nats to grab him if he’s available at #10.

I do not believe he and his advisor (Boras) are going to sign at a discount. In fact, there have been rumors he’ll seek an above slot deal.

]]> By: cjrugger http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390420 cjrugger Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:54:36 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390420 <p>Marc- His bat went backwards (sideways at best) and theres lots of questions as if he can stay at SS defensively</p> Marc- His bat went backwards (sideways at best) and theres lots of questions as if he can stay at SS defensively

]]> By: Marc http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390419 Marc Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:51:48 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390419 <p>Brian - why is it that Green seems to be sliding? Nobody even really mentions him much and each mock seems to have him falling further - are people just looking past him?</p> <p>Why do you think the Nats are passing? Signability exclusively?</p> Brian – why is it that Green seems to be sliding? Nobody even really mentions him much and each mock seems to have him falling further – are people just looking past him?

Why do you think the Nats are passing? Signability exclusively?

]]> By: Josh http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390418 Josh Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:48:02 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390418 <p>Is there any speculation on who the Nats will take in the 2nd or 3rd round: I have them taking LHP Matt Bashore in the 2nd and SS Deven Marrero in the 3rd-with the Marrero pick (being a bit of an overdraft in the 3rd round) based solely on his relationships with Chris Marrrero and Adrian Nieto</p> Is there any speculation on who the Nats will take in the 2nd or 3rd round: I have them taking LHP Matt Bashore in the 2nd and SS Deven Marrero in the 3rd-with the Marrero pick (being a bit of an overdraft in the 3rd round) based solely on his relationships with Chris Marrrero and Adrian Nieto

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390416 Brian Oliver Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:36:36 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390416 <p>Josh - The Scheppers slide is based on the rumors that there are a couple Japanese teams ready to make (have already made) him an offer. He is a top 10 talent without question</p> Josh – The Scheppers slide is based on the rumors that there are a couple Japanese teams ready to make (have already made) him an offer. He is a top 10 talent without question

]]> By: Josh http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390414 Josh Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:34:55 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390414 <p>I think Green is being very underrated in this draft and I would be very surprised if he doesn't go in he top 10-I also think Scheppers has a chance to be available at 10</p> I think Green is being very underrated in this draft and I would be very surprised if he doesn’t go in he top 10-I also think Scheppers has a chance to be available at 10

]]> By: Wallyball http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390413 Wallyball Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:34:41 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390413 <p>Of all these names mentioned and assuming 1-9 plays out like Brian described, I would take Leake unless they can get comfortable with Gibson's meds. Leake has proven enough, albeit against weaker competition, to warrant the pick and he should be signable, since he can hardly improve his position. These reports on Storen seem promising, but unless they were really convinced he could make the move to starter, like Cecil of toronto, I would pass here. I like Trout, but #10 seems awfully high. I do not like Jenkins there at all, and haven't been a big Minor fan. If White fell, I would probably take him over Leake.</p> Of all these names mentioned and assuming 1-9 plays out like Brian described, I would take Leake unless they can get comfortable with Gibson’s meds. Leake has proven enough, albeit against weaker competition, to warrant the pick and he should be signable, since he can hardly improve his position. These reports on Storen seem promising, but unless they were really convinced he could make the move to starter, like Cecil of toronto, I would pass here. I like Trout, but #10 seems awfully high. I do not like Jenkins there at all, and haven’t been a big Minor fan. If White fell, I would probably take him over Leake.

]]> By: Ronny http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390412 Ronny Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:27:47 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390412 <p>I rather have Tim Wheeler instead of Jenkins and Storen. Please don't do this to me Nats. You owe us this one for not signing Crow. Now is not the time to be cheap.</p> I rather have Tim Wheeler instead of Jenkins and Storen. Please don’t do this to me Nats. You owe us this one for not signing Crow. Now is not the time to be cheap.

]]> By: Marc http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390411 Marc Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:27:11 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390411 <p>Gotta say - I know signability and all, but if Green is there at 10, I will be sorely disappointed if they pass on him. I really don't understand why he's sliding - his numbers are nearly identical to last year's. I know at first glance there looks to be a drop in slugging - from .644 to .569, but that's basically a sample size issue. He had 15 2b and 9 HR last year, 19 2b and 4 HR last year. If you take four of those doubles and make them HR, his SLG jumps to .606. I really don't see why this guy is sliding out of the top-10.</p> <p>I know drafting on need is wrong, but this seems like a true confluence where the best player available also happens to be at a position of organizational need (like Zimmerman at 4). If he doesn't have the range to stay at SS he can move to CF or 2b.</p> <p>Signability on that makes NO sense.</p> Gotta say – I know signability and all, but if Green is there at 10, I will be sorely disappointed if they pass on him. I really don’t understand why he’s sliding – his numbers are nearly identical to last year’s. I know at first glance there looks to be a drop in slugging – from .644 to .569, but that’s basically a sample size issue. He had 15 2b and 9 HR last year, 19 2b and 4 HR last year. If you take four of those doubles and make them HR, his SLG jumps to .606. I really don’t see why this guy is sliding out of the top-10.

I know drafting on need is wrong, but this seems like a true confluence where the best player available also happens to be at a position of organizational need (like Zimmerman at 4). If he doesn’t have the range to stay at SS he can move to CF or 2b.

Signability on that makes NO sense.

]]> By: Josh http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390410 Josh Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:05:02 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390410 <p>Why not take Sac St OF Tim Wheeler over Trout? Or if they want a CF how about Everett Williams?</p> Why not take Sac St OF Tim Wheeler over Trout? Or if they want a CF how about Everett Williams?

]]> By: John http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/04/nfa-mock-draft-june-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390408 John Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:41:58 +0000 http://natsfarm.com/?p=2838#comment-390408 <p>Jenkins and Storen? Interesting.</p> Jenkins and Storen? Interesting.

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