Comments on: The Final Tally http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/ We cannot always build the future for our youth, but we can build our youth for the future - FDR Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:59:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Tom http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30954 Tom Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:38:36 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30954 <p>Just more money to spend on foreign player signings</p> Just more money to spend on foreign player signings

]]> By: Dick http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30931 Dick Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:02:30 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30931 <p>Brian: Mine is on my bedside table. I sleep with it under my pillow.</p> Brian: Mine is on my bedside table. I sleep with it under my pillow.

]]> By: John http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30924 John Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:23:34 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30924 <p>Brian: Teams waiting on the draft before signing makes sense. It also occurs to me that teams may not want to sign an IFA to a big bonus and then have that work against them in negotiations with a draft pick.</p> <p>Apparently, McGeary is not over yet. <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/" rel="nofollow">Very interesting read.</a></p> <p>I also saw a <a href="http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports/gatech/stories/2007/08/14/techbaseball_0814.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=21" rel="nofollow">quote in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution from Danny Hall</a> saying he thought Duncan would be coming back to school.</p> <p><i>I edited the URLs into links -- Yuda</i></p> Brian: Teams waiting on the draft before signing makes sense. It also occurs to me that teams may not want to sign an IFA to a big bonus and then have that work against them in negotiations with a draft pick.

Apparently, McGeary is not over yet. Very interesting read.

I also saw a quote in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution from Danny Hall saying he thought Duncan would be coming back to school.

I edited the URLs into links — Yuda

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30923 Brian Oliver Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:14:28 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30923 <p>They could spend the money on the other guys but it sounded to me like the guys that are unsigned are more inclined to re-enter the draft in 2008 (enroll in a JuCo if necessary). Not sure the Nationals would pay what it would likely take to get them to sign (nor would it potentially make sense if their price tags are too high)</p> <p>Internationally? That's a good question. Normally the big name guys go quickly. I wonder if they've priced themselves too high for the other teams or more likely the new signing deadline has led teams to put off those signings until they are sure who they have/have not signed from the draft.</p> They could spend the money on the other guys but it sounded to me like the guys that are unsigned are more inclined to re-enter the draft in 2008 (enroll in a JuCo if necessary). Not sure the Nationals would pay what it would likely take to get them to sign (nor would it potentially make sense if their price tags are too high)

Internationally? That’s a good question. Normally the big name guys go quickly. I wonder if they’ve priced themselves too high for the other teams or more likely the new signing deadline has led teams to put off those signings until they are sure who they have/have not signed from the draft.

]]> By: John http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30922 John Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:00:46 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30922 <p>So, I guess there's no chance of them spending money that they didn't use on McGeary on one of the others? I'm new at this, but it would seem to make sense to at least consider someone like Berroa, who apparently did very well in a recent tournament.</p> <p>Also, there appears to still be several big name IFAs like Carlos Flores, Israel Perez, Moises Montero, and Anderson Pujols out there. I wonder if they'd put that money towards an IFA. I remember Bowden saying they were negotiating with players that may be as talented as Detwiler and Smoker. That may have just been a negotiating ploy, but it may have been real.</p> <p>It will be interesting to see what happens.</p> <p>Brian: Is it normal for international players like the ones mentioned above to go this long without signing?</p> So, I guess there’s no chance of them spending money that they didn’t use on McGeary on one of the others? I’m new at this, but it would seem to make sense to at least consider someone like Berroa, who apparently did very well in a recent tournament.

Also, there appears to still be several big name IFAs like Carlos Flores, Israel Perez, Moises Montero, and Anderson Pujols out there. I wonder if they’d put that money towards an IFA. I remember Bowden saying they were negotiating with players that may be as talented as Detwiler and Smoker. That may have just been a negotiating ploy, but it may have been real.

It will be interesting to see what happens.

Brian: Is it normal for international players like the ones mentioned above to go this long without signing?

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30910 Brian Oliver Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:43:36 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30910 <p>Dick - Mine is sitting on a shelf at home.</p> Dick – Mine is sitting on a shelf at home.

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30909 Brian Oliver Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:42:37 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30909 <p>2005 - This gets sketchy. Assuming DFE Ryan Buchter gets $100K (I don't know what he actually got) and the same 15% redux. $4.1 million for 23 players</p> 2005 – This gets sketchy. Assuming DFE Ryan Buchter gets $100K (I don’t know what he actually got) and the same 15% redux. $4.1 million for 23 players

]]> By: Chris http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30908 Chris Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:40:19 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30908 <p>If you've got it, do you have the last few years, too?</p> If you’ve got it, do you have the last few years, too?

]]> By: Chris http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30907 Chris Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:39:38 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30907 <p>Good thing they saved all that money on the major-league level then!</p> Good thing they saved all that money on the major-league level then!

]]> By: Dick http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30906 Dick Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:39:15 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30906 <p>Brian: The answer is in the Baseball America Prospects Guide. I don't have my copy with me.</p> Brian: The answer is in the Baseball America Prospects Guide. I don’t have my copy with me.

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30905 Brian Oliver Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:37:30 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30905 <p>2006 - including the DFE signing of Brad Peacock ($110K) and using the same back of the envelope 15% reduction ... oddly enough $5.8 million. But this was for 26 guys</p> 2006 – including the DFE signing of Brad Peacock ($110K) and using the same back of the envelope 15% reduction … oddly enough $5.8 million. But this was for 26 guys

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30904 Brian Oliver Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:32:15 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30904 <p>You had to ask didn't you?</p> <p>Let me see what I can dig up</p> You had to ask didn’t you?

Let me see what I can dig up

]]> By: Chris http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30902 Chris Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:15:55 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30902 <p>Any idea how this shakes out with the last two or three years of expenditures?</p> Any idea how this shakes out with the last two or three years of expenditures?

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30899 Brian Oliver Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:52:34 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30899 <p>Mick - Based upon potential, yes I believe the Nationals had one of the strongest drafts. It was the same deal last year. The Nationals targeted high ceiling guys which tend to lead the experts to grade them out higher than most of the other teams. The one caveat with the high potential of reward is the high volatility that these players might not develop.</p> <p>We have read about the improved scouting department. Here's where we'll see if they are as good as we have been led to believe.</p> <p>Additionally, it's also the test to see if the Nationals have the correct infrastructure in place to properly develop these players (coaches, etc).</p> Mick – Based upon potential, yes I believe the Nationals had one of the strongest drafts. It was the same deal last year. The Nationals targeted high ceiling guys which tend to lead the experts to grade them out higher than most of the other teams. The one caveat with the high potential of reward is the high volatility that these players might not develop.

We have read about the improved scouting department. Here’s where we’ll see if they are as good as we have been led to believe.

Additionally, it’s also the test to see if the Nationals have the correct infrastructure in place to properly develop these players (coaches, etc).

]]> By: Mick http://natsfarm.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-30898 Mick Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:45:15 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/08/15/the-final-tally/#comment-30898 <p>As quoted in the Post:</p> <p>"Most people who evaluate this kind of thing and understand talent in baseball would rate the Nationals among the top three drafts," Lerner said.</p> <p>True?</p> As quoted in the Post:

“Most people who evaluate this kind of thing and understand talent in baseball would rate the Nationals among the top three drafts,” Lerner said.

True?

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