Comments on: Overslot

By: cjrugger

cjrugger — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:40:39 +0000

Shelby Miller signed for 2.8 mil with the Cardinals. Ouch. I wanted him at #10 but gave up hope thinking his bonus was going to be A LOT higher than that

By: BinM

BinM — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:18:16 +0000

Upperdec: The Nationals have signed 28 of their top 35 picks from the 2009 draft to date; I wouldn't consider that a bad draft.

Of the top 10, only Strasburg & the HS-LH (Pena) remain unsigned. From the mid-round players, Karns (#12) & Strohman (#18) not signing didn't suprise me, but Ridings (#25) did. Not signing the Davis kid (#15) probably means he was asking for a completely out-of-scale bonus, given his current skill-set (DH).

The bulk of the lower (35-50) rounds were used on HS players, with most of them already commited to good programs; That struck me as more of a "draft & offer slot, then watch" strategy.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:04:38 +0000

Mike Morse gets the call-up, per Nationals Journal.

By: Upperdec

Upperdec — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:35:11 +0000

Louis J. -- then it sounds like we had a pretty crappy draft then. I just think you should sign more than 80% of your first 20 picks (assuming Strasburg signs) when you have as low a payroll as the Nats do.

This is truly looking like the Strasburg or bust draft which frankly is pretty scary to me.

By: Louis J

Louis J — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:27:09 +0000

To Upperdec: The only unsigned draft choice that concerns me is Miguel Pena (5th Rd). He appears to be a good looking LHP without a strong college commitment. Nathan Karns (12th Rd) is a college Junior who has a big fast ball and bad control. If he can gain some degree of control, he’s a possible setup man. But he has no place to go and I don’t know why he doesn’t want to sign. Marcus Stroman (18th Rd) is going to his dream school – DUKE – to play college ball. And, “Big Hoss” – Corey Davis (15th Rd) – is a 6-3, 258 lb HS project with weak defensive skills and slow bat speed. No big loss if he doesn’t sign.

By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:05:38 +0000

Wow – the FO really believes in Maxwell. I don’t see an immediate team need to move him up.

By: Brian Oliver

Brian Oliver — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:02:39 +0000

I had read Maxwell was a consideration as well

By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:00:21 +0000

Kensing is on assignment. The scuttlebutt is either Morse or Everts. Any thougts?

By: Ric

Ric — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:33:49 +0000

I did not hear that Kobernus had a knee injury - how serious, does he need surgery? Too bad for him.

Espinosa (3rd round) and Ramirez (15th round - the kind of overslot pick Brian is talking about) don't make my list because they don't fit the 1, 1S and 2 round parameters I established.

I agree with Brian on the late round picks. They seem to do pretty well after the first 2 - including Espinosa (3d), Norris and Maxwell (4th), Nieto and Meyers (5th), Lannan (11th), Stammen (12th), Arneson (17th)

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By: Pilchard

Pilchard — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:16:06 +0000

While I doubt it will have any impact on the negotiations involving Boras’s other first rounders, It appears that at least one of Boras’sclients, Levon Washington drafted in the 1st round by the Rays, will not sign today:

http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/comments/rays-come-up-empty-with-top-two-picks/

By: Brian Oliver

Brian Oliver — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:51:51 +0000

I will give the Nationals credit for their drafting/developing of pitchers in the 5th through 15th rounds. They have the knack for targeting the college arms there. None of them are future #1 SPs but they have shown the proclivity to find guys who are back or the rotation options with some upside for maybe #3 or 4s.

I agree their HS drafting since relocating has been a mixed bag. The question remains whether it's bad scouting or bad player development.

By: Guy Holly

Guy Holly — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:47:29 +0000

Ric,

Kobernus blew out his knee. That's why he's not showing much.

You need to put Espinosa and Ramirez in your success list.

By: Ric

Ric — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:24:28 +0000

Before worrying about going overslot, how about they fix the first round? Obviously good in 2005, but that draft was so good it was hard to go wrong. Starting with 2006, Marrero (OK but not a star so far), Willems (very slow progress), Detwiler (some signs of progress, but not top 100 material) and Crow (unsigned), Strasburg (let’s hope so) and Storen (probably not top 100 but solid). Picking in spots 15, 22, 6, 9, 1 and 10, respctively, better results would be nice. Expand to the supplemental first and second and get Black (unsigned), Englund (position change, drug suspension), Smoker (see Willems), Burgess (encouraging), Zimmerman (great pick), Smolinski (traded), Hood (encouraging) and Kobernus (not showing much yet) Seems like a disappointing yield overall for rounds 1, 1S and 2 the past five years. Only Zimmerman, Zimmermann and(let’s hope) Strasburg are clear MLB talent so far, out of 15 picks.

By: Basil

Basil — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:16:10 +0000

Teams demand that players who get a major league contract have a physical prior to signing a deal. Such players deals cannot be voided if an injury appears after the fact.

And then you have the rare case of Tim Stauffer, who agreed in principle on a $2.6M bonus, discovered an injury on his own, told the Padres about it, and ended up getting a $750,000 bonus.