Buried at the bottom of Ken Rosenthal’s latest update at FoxSports was this item
Nationals right-hander Garrett Mock is pitching well in the Arizona Fall League, and could be the team’s No. 3 starter next season. The Nats would like to trade for another young, major league-ready starter — and the Mets’ Kevin Mulvey and Twins’ Kevin Slowey both fit that description. However, the Indians’ [Cliff] Lee would be a more established option. Nats outfielder Ryan Church, a left-handed hitter coming off a 15-homer, 70-RBI season, continues to intrigue many clubs.
Mock is currently 0-1 with a 2.95ERA and 0.98WHIP in six appearances (five starts) for the Peoria Javelinas. In 18 1/3 innings of work, Mock has allowed eleven hits and seven walks while striking out fourteen. Mock is a hard-throwing righthander who was acquired in 2006 along with lefty Matt Chico from the Arizona Diamondbacks in exchange for Livan Hernandez. Mock is primarily a ground ball pitcher who tries to pitch to contact. His repertoire consists of a low to mid 90s fastball, slider, changeup and the occasional curveball. The 25-year old Mock is coming off of a tough 2007 in which he rehabbed a knee injury. It seems likely that Mock will be presented with a chance to audition for a spot in the 2008 rotation.
The other names mentioned would all be have to be acquired through a trade. Here are some quick scouting reports on the three:
LHP Cliff Lee was originally drafted by the Expos in the fourth round of the 2000 draft and was part of the infamous Bartolo Colon trade where Omar Minaya, assuming the Expos were going to be contracted, dealt Lee, Brandon Phillips, and Grady Sizemore to the Indians in exchange for Colon (Lee Stevens and Tim Drew were also components of the deal). The 28-year old Lee has fastball, cutter, change-up and curve. He is under contract for at least the next two seasons ($3.75M in 2008 and $5.75M in 2009 with a 2010 team option for $8M or a $1M buyout). Lee missed a large chunk of the 2007 season with an abdominal strain. He seems to be the type of pitcher the Nats should target, accomplished major league resume and coming off of a down season. He was available off of waivers this past season and it’s surprising if there were interest that the Nats didn’t make a claim them.
RHP Kevin Mulvey was a 2006 second round selection by the New York Mets. His name came up around the trade deadline involved in the rumors of a Chad Cordero to New York. I am less confident here that Church would (a) be enough or (b) the Mets have any interest/need for Church. Below is his BBA scouting report from last season:
Strengths: Mulvey came to pro ball with a feel for four pitches. His fastball sits at 90-93 mph and touches 96. He has good leverage in his delivery, which allows him to maintain his velocity and might give him more as he matures physically. His 82-84 mph slider has short, late break. He’s effective at changing batter’s eye level with his mid-70s curveball. His changeup should at least provide a weapon against lefthanders. He throws from a high three-quarters arm slot with a fluid arm action and little effort.
Weaknesses: Though he can throw all four of his pitches for strikes, Mulvey’s command within the zone needs work. His changeup is still a below-average pitch at this point, and he lacks a true putaway pitch.
RHP Kevin Slowey was a 2005 second round selection by the Minnesota Twins. This is another case where I have a hard time understanding why the Twins would move him. Below is his BBA scouting report from last season:
Strengths: Slowey resembles Brad Radke for his fastball command, which some scouts rate an 8 on their 2-8 scale. He puts his 88-92 fastball wherever he wants, usually with good life. His delivery is so easy that it creates deception. In the high Class A Florida State League all-star game, Slowey threw nine straight fastballs to strike out the side, and only one drew a swing. His moxie makes his tools play up.
Weaknesses: He throws 90 percent fastballs with average velocity, and it’s hard to see Slowey succeeding in the majors with that approach. He saw the benefits of pitching backward—throwing secondary pitches in fastball counts, and vice-versa—against Cuba, when he gave up only one run in five innings. His changeup is ahead of his slurvy breaking ball at this point, but both need more work.
Both Slowey and Mulvey are under their respective teams control contractually for at least the next three seasons (Mulvey even longer than that). It would seem to me that the chances either would be made available for Ryan Church are long. However, if the offer is made, it’s certainly something the Nats should consider.
#1 by VladiHondo - November 8th, 2007 at 09:45
One of Mock’s coaches last year said he had good stuff but it was all “right here” and made a fist belt high. He wasn’t that hot over the summer, 65 IP, 80 H, 30 BBs and 54 K’s.
How does 18 innings in the AFL change that and make him a #3 starter in the bigs? Not trying to be coy, just curious if the Light has finally gone on.
#2 by Brian Oliver - November 8th, 2007 at 09:50
VH – Not sure I buy Robothal’s #3 projection. He seems like a 4 or 5 to me. I do wonder how long he has been injured
#3 by Marcus - November 8th, 2007 at 10:29
Gr8 write up as usual Anyone interested in more news about Mock should check out Svrugla(might have spelled it wrong) in the Post…He has a real good write up on him seems like a good guy.
#4 by Brian Oliver - November 8th, 2007 at 10:34
Mock is a really good guy (and quite the talker as Barry commented)
#5 by fernando - November 8th, 2007 at 14:06
For me Mock should be AAA next year.
Our ML rotation is pretty set with:
I don’t think we need to rush Mock into the ML this year, let’s remember he was the main component of the Livan deal.
#6 by estuartj - November 8th, 2007 at 15:18
I don’t think anyone is guaranteed a spot in the rotation, especially considering the injury history of Patterson, Hill and Bergmann, but if healthy all 3 have spots. I think 11 current starting pitchers (FA Signees to come?) will get invited to camp with a shot. They are (in alphabetical order); Balester Bergmann Chico Detwiler Gonzalez Hanrahan Hill Lannan Mock Patterson Redding This is a far cry from 37…and realistically some of these guys are huge longshots to make the team, especially Detwiler. Some guys like Hanrahan are probably headed for the bullpen. However, to be competitive you need to have 7 guys ready to take the ball on any day. Some of those might be in the bullpen (ala Bacsik in ‘07) and others might be in AAA (like Hanrahan & Lannan in ‘07).
#7 by Ric - November 8th, 2007 at 15:34
VH – the summer was injury recovery time. I think penciling Mock in at the ML level is overly aggressive, but hopefully the AFL results are more typical of his potential. He’s pitching in short blocks though, maybe on a pitch count?
#8 by pahou - November 8th, 2007 at 15:35
It works for me, you just cant have to many arms. It would be nice if Cliff Lee could find himself back in this organization, he was a real class act, as so many ballplayers are when they come through the minor leagues. That trade for Bartolo Colon decimated the organization for a long time.
#9 by Louis J. - November 9th, 2007 at 09:23
If you are going to trade Chad Cordero, how about the Giants who need a closer and have some pitchers to trade (plus Cordero would go back home to California). Chad Cordero for Noah Lowry(LH-SP) or Chad Cordero for young prospect Jonathan Sanchez(LHP) and speedster Eugenio Velez(2B/SS)(S/R).
If you are going to trade Chad Cordero #2 option, how about the Marlins who need a closer. Chad Cordero, Justin Maxwell & John Lannan for Donrelle Willis and Gaby Sanchez(1B)(R/R).
If you are going to trade Chad Cordero #3 option, how about Tampa who need a closer- big time! Chad Cordero and Felipe Lopez for either Wade Davis (RH-SP) (age 21) or Jeremy Hellickson (RH-SP) (age 20), potential power hitter Sergio Pedroza (OF)(L/R)(age 23) & speedster Fernando Perez (CF)(S/R).
#10 by Brian Oliver - November 9th, 2007 at 09:32
All of those deals would be solid for the Nationals but I’m not sure any of those teams would be looking for an increasingly expensive closer given where they are on the competitiveness scale. Teams like the Mets are oft-mentioned since they are more near-term focused and less focused on the financial aspect.
#11 by Louis J. - November 9th, 2007 at 11:08
Brian I agree that $$$ are vital with respect to trading with Tampa BUT they are desperate for a closer!!!!
I respectfully disagree that expenses are a factor for the Giants and Marlins.
Free Agents Bonds, Vizuel, Feliz, Klesko and the retired Mike Matheny cost them $37.5m in 2007. They may sign Vizuel or Feliz which still leaves them with plenty of $$$ for Cordero and Free Agents AND they are also desperate for a closer to compliment the rotation they have.
The Marlins do have $$$ problems but they paid Willis $6.45M in 2007 and his salary will increase to $10+M by 2009 afterwhich he will declare Free Agency. Also, Cabrera was paid $7.05M for 2007 and his salary will increase to $14+M by 2009 afterwhich he will declare Free Agency. Cordero cost the Nats $4M in 2007 and is arbitration eligible for 2008 and 2009. His salary will never approach the $10+M figure that Willis will command. Therefore, expenses are factor but Cordero would be less of a $$$ problem plus they get a young premuim closer to grow up with their young pitchers.
#12 by Louis J. - November 9th, 2007 at 11:25
Brian
While I’m playing GM and since this is Hot Stove time, I have another trade. Lance Berkman (1B)(S/R) age 30 of Astros for Collin Balester, Zech Zinicola and Josh Whitesell. Berkman’s contract would carry him thru 2010 for $14.5M per year w/ a team option of $15M for 2011.
The Astros are going nowhere in the next few years and have very few quality prospects moving up their system thanks to bad drafts in 2005-2007. They don’t need to spend $58.5 for a player that will not improve their future. They need prospects!
Berkman is a switch-hitting power hitter who would help the middle of the Nats lineup and he is only one year older than Nick Johnson and a lot healthy playing in 94% of the Astros games. Also, he would be signed thru 2011 while Johnson will be a free agent after 2009. Nick Johnson would be available for a trade once he is healthy. The Yankees, Dodgers & Giants come mind for Johnson.
#13 by Brian Oliver - November 9th, 2007 at 11:25
Louis – This is just my opinion, but if your closer is not named Mariano Rivera or Trevor Hoffman, I have a hard time spending a premium for a closer. Especially if you are a team that is not a serious playoff contender. There is little reason to spend $6M or more (my guess of Chad Cordero’s minimum) on an unnecessary piece when there are cheaper options out there. Closers typically have a short shelf life and by the time they become expensive, the ROI is just not worth it (once again in my opinion).
#14 by Louis J. - November 9th, 2007 at 11:44
Brian
As always, I respect your opinion BUT Rivera and Hoffman didn’t have their usual outstanding performances and may not have much left. In other words, their future is in the their rear-view mirror and giving them a long-term contract is a gamble. Cordero would cost less than them and we can debate which of the 3 will have a better future.
Also, remember the premium depends on a team’s situation and how desperate they are to fix a problem. The Royals paid a premium for Gil Meche (5yrs/$55M) because they were desperate for a starter. And million of people- including me- paid a premium for “cabbage patch” dolls! I think the Giants are desperate to get back into playoff race with the Dodgers and they need a long-term experienced closer
#15 by Neil UK - November 9th, 2007 at 17:39
With the usual apologies about being in the UK and therefore nowhere near the baseball pulse:
Is Patterson on his way back then? And perhaps more pertinently, will Washington sign him again?
I’d like the Nats to sign Livan again over Glavine, he’s an innings eater who can teach the youngsters how to win and hey, go more than 5 2/3. If Lerner/Kastan/Bowden were feeling flush, how about gambling on a Jason Jennings/Jeff weaver type on a 1 year (with club option for another) $4-$5m deal?
My starting rotation would be:
Hernandez Hill Bergmann Patterson/Chico Chico/Lannan
#16 by Nate - November 9th, 2007 at 18:48
Neil,
Patterson is on his way back (again) and almost certainly will be offered arbitration by the Nats, keeping him with the club. The rub with Livan will be the number of years on the contract. He’d probably be nice to have around next season, maybe even in ‘09, but any longer than that and he’s probably just taking up (lots of) space. Jennings or Weaver at 1 year/$5M would be a great signing, but there’s no reason to think that’s a reasonable estimate in dollars or years, given the thin market for starting pitching.
#17 by Tom - November 9th, 2007 at 23:27
What sets a closer in a special category? A 95+ mph fastball? Pinpoint control? A great change-up? None of these. Closing is 20% talent and 80% mental make up. Chad fits that mold. He can get into jam after jam, but he still has the moxy and ice water in his veins to pitch the 9th inning day after day and have no memory of what happened yesterday. Guys like Chad are rare. That’s why fans go nuts over him but GM’s want him. The Nats will miss him if they trade him and get good in other areas two years from now. Jim B is wise to demand first class + talent in any trade for Chad.
#18 by Louis J. - November 10th, 2007 at 09:19
Knock, Knock!! Opportunity is knocking! The Astros made a deal for a centerfield and 3B prospect and their GM said he isn’t done talking. They are looking for a second baseman, starting pitcher (Dontrelle Willis). I like to have Lance Berkman (have to deal with his no trade clause w/$$$$)! Can the Nats get a deal done for prospects? Throw in Lopez!!!!
If the Marlins are entertaining offers for Willis, the Astros are willing to part with their star CF prospect- Josh Anderson. Bowden should concentrate his efforts with the Marlins and forget the “can’t decide” Tampa Rays and Rocco Baldelli. Justin Maxwell is a better player than Josh Anderson.
I hope “Trader Jim” is hard at work….
#19 by Louis J. - November 10th, 2007 at 09:55
Update ####?
In any trade for Dontrelle Willis or Miguel Cabrera , Marlins would like to obtain a top-flight, affordable young pitcher, a catcher and a CF. The Nats have those players. (paraphrase of article by Joe Frisaro of MLB.com).
The Nats have these players. How many of these prospects would it take?
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